Mark Zuckerberg shared his thoughts during a nearly three-hour conversation on The Joe Rogan Experience. The Facebook CEO went all philosophical about corporate culture, claiming it has become “culturally neutered” and disconnected from what he calls “masculine energy.”
The man who poked us on Facebook is now waxing poetic about the balance of energies at work.
“Masculine energy I think is good, and obviously society has plenty of that, but I think that corporate culture was really trying to get away from it,” Zuckerberg said.
He continued: “It’s like you want feminine energy, you want masculine energy. I think that that’s all good. But I do think the corporate culture sort of had swung toward being this somewhat more neutered thing.”
The X-verse (formerly known as Twitter) didn’t waste any time.
“He’s getting a divorce isn’t he,” one user quipped.
Another user didn’t hold back: “If anything, the social network was too kind to this guy.”
“He read one Andrew Tate quote and thought he cracked the code of the universe ,” said one user .While another added, “Nah bro’s been watching too much Andrew Tate.”
“Somebody check his Spotify; I bet it’s all alpha male podcasts now .”Another user added: “At the very least he’s sleeping on the couch after .”
“Going through a midlife crisis realizing he hates the company culture that he created,” another user commented .
Mark Zuckerberg on The Joe Rogan Experience
So, what did Zuckerberg say to set off this tidal wave of internet snark? During episode #1863 of Rogan’s podcast, he went philosophical about what he called the corporate world’s shift away from masculine energy.
He believes that these characteristics are being overlooked in the name of inclusivity and kindness. However, Zuckerberg believes that a little assertiveness and aggression can be beneficial for business success.
Growing up with three sisters and three daughters influenced Zuckerberg’s perspective on gender dynamics at work. He did recognize that it was more difficult for women to succeed in a male-dominated environment, and that a balance of masculine and feminine energies would help the corporate culture thrive.
“So I’m, like, surrounded by girls and women, like, my whole life. And it’s like…I don’t know, there’s something, the kind of masculine energy, I think, is good.”
“And I do think that… all these forms of energy are good. And I think having a culture that, like, celebrates the aggression a bit more has its own merits that are really positive.”
“I think it’s one thing to say we want to be kind of, like, welcoming and make a good environment for everyone. And I think it’s another to basically say that masculinity is bad. And I, I just think we kind of swung culturally to that part of the… spectrum where, you know, it’s all like, okay, masculinity is toxic. We have to, like, get rid of it completely.”
Meta’s DEI programs get the axe
These comments did not simply disappear; they coincided with some significant policy shifts at Meta. The company recently phased out its diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) programs.
Janelle Gale, Meta’s VP of Human Resources, stated in an internal memo that they were discontinuing these initiatives due to the “changing legal and policy landscape” surrounding DEI efforts in the United States.
